tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post5593803103689497420..comments2023-10-21T02:43:05.419+11:00Comments on Ariane's little world: Fred Nile makes it all clearArianehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17977679825245376111noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-72856632890179350822010-05-18T13:30:33.461+10:002010-05-18T13:30:33.461+10:00I agree with you in a practical sense, but at the ...I agree with you in a practical sense, but at the same time, I have pretty strong reservations about demanding that people explain their clothing choices. <br /><br />After all, the general public can find out if they can be bothered - it isn't a secret. Plenty of women have written and spoken about their experiences all along the spectrum. If Joe Public is making judgements based on ignorance, that's Joe Public's problem. <br /><br />Perhaps demanding that media don't perpetuate myths might be useful though. Of course, that would take 95% of talkback radio off the air.....Arianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17977679825245376111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-32956583543917397482010-05-18T12:57:39.267+10:002010-05-18T12:57:39.267+10:00I think that if the general public knew or underst...I think that if the general public knew or understood more about why the clothing was worn it could reduce some of the problems or intolerance that exist and may help you in your campaign.Tonihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830106136821220593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-75603133490417377432010-05-17T17:46:42.983+10:002010-05-17T17:46:42.983+10:00@Adam: I think I may have also originally written ...@Adam: I think I may have also originally written a rant to go with the post, but deleted it. :) But yes, I agree completely.<br /><br />@Toni: There are only cultural and religious norms as it stands. They are quite varied depending on the flavour of Islam to which women subscribe. And yes, for many women it is their own choice what they wear. I don't really see why I need to know exactly what those norms are, my obligation is to campaign for women to all always have access to education and choice and so on. <br /><br />I don't have a huge problem with applying helmet/ski mask laws to face veils - but that is a far cry to banning them in all public places. <br /><br />Fred wants to increase the restrictions, not decrease them - moving from cultural norms to legislation can hardly be regarded as an increase in freedom.Arianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17977679825245376111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-995791457852850202010-05-17T17:27:58.086+10:002010-05-17T17:27:58.086+10:00I guess the first thing we need to do is find out ...I guess the first thing we need to do is find out why and when women wear a burqa. They are not compulsory from watching a woman at school. She wore it for a while and then stopped. Same as the headscarf, I thought once you started wearing it you could not stop. That is not true either. So some understanding would go a long way.<br /><br />If the burqa did become the latest item of clothing for criminals then it would have to be looked at. After all those who ride motor bikes can't wear a helmut into banks, shops etc and I'm sure the majority of those people are not criminals either.Tonihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830106136821220593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-73896306929462424102010-05-17T17:07:01.322+10:002010-05-17T17:07:01.322+10:00I agree fred = bad.
But it did get me thinking (Fr...I agree fred = bad.<br />But it did get me thinking (Fred usually stands for not thinking, sorry Fred). <br /><br />I had a long rant but then deleted it.<br /><br />To summerise. <br /><br />Our society should not fear a garment and making laws about said garment will only encourage more people to wear it, see the history of swimwear.<br /><br />Fred you're a jerk, Oppressing women is bad, but it is only freedom when its won, liberation imposed, is just oppression with different limits.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02433937861946549252noreply@blogger.com