tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post6988656117380018356..comments2023-10-21T02:43:05.419+11:00Comments on Ariane's little world: It's all about boobsArianehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17977679825245376111noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-61543189253289603072009-08-13T17:01:02.695+10:002009-08-13T17:01:02.695+10:00@Sophist:
I didn't consider this from another ...@Sophist:<br />I didn't consider this from another side, my view is not in opposition to "some". I did write it, to some extent, to acknowledge that you (and others) might well have got through life only hearing from people with my experience. <br /><br />However, it comes down to a very simple argument. There exist women for whom any sort of looking (irrespective of what you call it, and however brief) beyond seeing is deeply distressing. Therefore, either you don't look at any breasts (unless you know their owner well enough to have had a genuine conversation about this) or you are almost certainly causing some women distress. <br /><br />The reason other people haven't addressed my experience or that of your girlfriend is that it is irrelevant to that argument. <br /><br />If you indeed, haven't ever realised previously that there are a large number of women who feel like that (and I don't think I realised it until pretty recently, so I'm not condemning you for that), it might take a while to digest it and the ramifications for you. However, don't fight against the people telling you the way it actually is. They are showing you a great deal of respect by taking the time to explain it, you should probably return the favour while you process the revelations.Arianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17977679825245376111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-9130530877264711092009-08-13T14:33:22.606+10:002009-08-13T14:33:22.606+10:00Despite the care of the OP in describing how she d...Despite the care of the OP in describing how she didn't think her reaction was necessarily typical or in any way better than the reaction of women who feel more like the poster at Zero at the Bone, you have used her post to take a verbal slap at people who find any form of visual attention distressing and discount them as insufficiently considerate of your opinion.<br /><br />It's hard to take you at your word that you are just putting ideas out there and trying for some self-examination when you appear to be so invested in denigrating your more confrontational interlocutors.tigtoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17989643095255493683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29783395.post-63279234620954354622009-08-13T07:50:54.067+10:002009-08-13T07:50:54.067+10:00Yeah, I've definately given this matter a lot ...Yeah, I've definately given this matter a lot of thought. I'm still torn on the issue. For example, I woudn't call my looking 'oggling.' I tried to get some of the ladies who replied to my little essay to get rid of that word, not even because it was inacurate, but so that we could find really specific ways of describing the action. So, while I am perfectly capable of not staring at a girls breasts, I see no reason to feel any shame for letting my eyes wander over them briefly. And not mid conversation, mind you, because I am also perfectly capable of listening to someone without needing to satisfy each impolte little urge (see various forms of scratching/farting for further example).<br /><br />But I've really appreciated your take on it. I think my girlfriend has some similar feelings. She was a model, and lived in Australia for years where being topless with her mates was the norm out on the beaches and boat. So maybe I've just been especially spoiled by this lovely lady.<br /><br />So,my thanks for your taking the time to consider the matter from a few more sides than some did.ModernSophisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02426370940058608014noreply@blogger.com